A Night with Dagens Media… and the meaning of Gender Equality

13 Jun
2009

Note: I had to rewrite this post three times since WordPress used an autosave of the wrong version. Yep, WP can be really stupid.

While on the way to a tweetmeetup at the Scandic Anglais Hotel, LBO and I stopped by to Vapiano for dinner. When we arrived at the hotel for the meetup, it was packed up people, for a media event. Like buffons we wandered around for 20min and never found the group, and of course had no contact numbers. Why would we do that!

Instead, we bought a glass of wine and headed over to an empty. At that point, a disheveled, yet handsome, blond haired swede ask LBO something. I couldn’t hear and she didn’t quite understand the Swedish. We sat down anyway and then heard our American accents.
“You’re from America?! Where are you from ??”

And that’s how the night started with a bunch of folks from Dagens Media, one of the biggest Swedish media groups.
We ended up making a round table of LBO, Linus (Swedish guy named after the lovable Peanuts character), Nat (Swedish girl studying media), and myself.

Being the reporter he is, he allowed us to ask three questions.
What is gender equality in Sweden?
Has feminism gone too far in Sweden?
Are Swedish men bending too much to Swedish feminism?

I want to stay home for as much time as possible if i have a child; i wouldn’t mind taking care of the baby for 90% of the time. but i guess the problem is, can i, as a man, be capable of taking a baby 90% of the time?

I presume that means since men cannot breastfeed, there are some things that are going to be really hard.

Women by instinct are more nurturing and that men have a tendency to be more ambitious and aggressive which helps them in business

A very interesting observation but not endorsed by everyone in the group. However, Linus always managed to turn all statements into maybe/possible and did not take a stand on either side.

“women are bright, really bright. they should get more in life.”

A very true statement, and he voted for the feminist party. But a couple of the other girls at the table, did not. I understood that it was because the feminist party is a bit too extreme in its points of view.

Are we going against evolution by making everything 50/50 equal?

Feminism is overrated and overdone

A quote from one of the girls from that night. She said that feminism in Sweden is far more ‘feminist’ and pushes equality to the brink of twisting society. It seems that Sweden struggles with equality as many other countries but in a different way? How far is too equal? Are men and women supposed to be the same on every level. On certain levels, income, education, promotion equalities makes sense. On other levels, like the “bare breast” campaign (advocating that women can be topless at the saunas and swimming houses), can take equality one step too far. The question is, how far should equality go?

Men and women are built differently so maybe men are supposed to be hunters and women are better as the nurturing, home type

There was once a cover on Time or Newsweek magazine (I can’t remember now) about women and men being physically built differently. It caused an uproar in the feminist community that “maybe” the genders are not biologically the same. How much we should be equal is up for society to debate.

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7 Responses to A Night with Dagens Media… and the meaning of Gender Equality

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riddarhusetboylover

June 4th, 2009 at 05:33

I hate to sound shallow and a bit of a stekare-loving a-hole but IMHO, dating among the upper class is far more like traditional American dating. All that rubbish about “I would not buy a girl a drink” – that’s fine if you want to dating far left feminist types who’ve bought into the feminist propaganda which says that there is some kind of sex contract if a man courts a woman. Also, I hate the presupposition that somehow ALL men hate courting and they are only doing that for the opportunity to bed or “win” women. I have found that the kind of Swedish fellows who grew up hearing stories about how their grandfather won his grandmother’s heart (these are the kind of Swedes that actually visit their grandparents vs. forgetting about them in the pensioners’ home) they long for the opportunity to experience that. And let’s face it, if you had a guy who wrote the typical Swedish woman a love poem or read her some Wordsworth BEFORE having slept with her, she’d probably think he was a little crazy. Sort of like “why is this guy being so nice to me AND HE HASN’T EVEN SLEPT WITH ME YET” – to me that is kind of crazy….
But make no mistake, to each his own. There is not “better” or “worse” per se; it all boils down to the individual. Lastly, alot of the swedes similar to what I’ve described here have probably moved away to Sweden and are already expatriated and married to a non-Swedish woman. Almost all the men I dated ended up doing that, lol…..

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smek this!

June 5th, 2009 at 10:09

What a dummkopf interviewer you had!

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Sapphire

June 14th, 2009 at 22:46

Amen riddarhusetboylover – to each his own.

@smek haha! You are so funny!

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Mo

June 15th, 2009 at 20:52

tack ! well…I went to Arkansas on a study exchange programme …was awesome ;-)

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Sapphire

June 16th, 2009 at 17:36

@Mo Sweet! I don’t know why I haven’t found your blog earlier but its awesome.

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Swedish Feminism 101: Don’t Let Daddy Walk You Down the Wedding Aisle

May 27th, 2010 at 14:32

[…] Because feminism in Sweden is strong, this is considered a serious lack of judgment on the Princess’ part. Unlike American feminism where women quickly place a double standard, Swedish feminism sticks to its goals. The Crown Princess wants her father, King Carl XVI Gustaf to walk her down the aisle at the wedding ceremony. While this is common practice in the United States, in Sweden it is customary for the couple to walk down the aisle together. […]

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Latina girl

May 27th, 2010 at 17:47

Oh dear! sigh
This Swedish gender equality is making me sick in my stomach. When are extreme feminists going to understand that men and women ARE DIFFERENT! Gosh! Life would be much easier. I’m sorry for my blunt delivery but it has just gone too far. Although we all want the same things in life, we want them in different degrees. Men want Respect, Women want Love. Women like to be courted, taken care of emotionally and physically. Not that we necesarily need it (sometimes we do lol), but want it. Men do feel good when they court. Of course, if the girl makes him feel like it’s wrong then eventually he will buy it. Gender equality is good. But I think it is going to the other extreme. Don’t get me wrong, I do fight for a type of equality with my fellows, it’s just that the swedish one is not my ideal of equality by any means.

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