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		<title>By: Snail</title>
		<link>http://lostinstockholm.com/2008/05/26/rude-swedes-are-not-an-oxymoron/#comment-9118</link>
		<dc:creator>Snail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 22:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And American, google for &quot;Swedish Inventions&quot; you might be surprised, we invented the zipper omg O.o, not to mention the medical research, concidering how many that lives in sweden i think there is enough inventions /head, and as an advice for you, try to be a bit humble don&#039;t measure your own balls with what other americans has done</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And American, google for &#8220;Swedish Inventions&#8221; you might be surprised, we invented the zipper omg O.o, not to mention the medical research, concidering how many that lives in sweden i think there is enough inventions /head, and as an advice for you, try to be a bit humble don&#8217;t measure your own balls with what other americans has done</p>
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		<title>By: Adriana</title>
		<link>http://lostinstockholm.com/2008/05/26/rude-swedes-are-not-an-oxymoron/#comment-8703</link>
		<dc:creator>Adriana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 23:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi to all! 
As a girl from Venezuela who recently met a Swede in my home country I must say I don&#039;t agree entirely with the negative comments about Swedes. I&#039;ve only met two Swedes in my life, both men.

 The first one was just touring and we volunteered to show him the surroundings. He never offered any help when it was kind of obvious that we needed it and I had always thought that he was rude until I read the comments on here, like the ones of PONTUS OLIN. 

The second Swede I&#039;ve met is a little more different. He opens the doors for the girls and tries to adapt to the culture down here, and he is doing an awesome job. He has moved to Caracas. Whenever I see something different in him I always try to keep in mind that he is from another culture and vice-versa, and I think it has worked...things have been going great for the past 6 months!
One thing that used to upset me was the fact of never saying hello when running into messenger, it was ALWAYS me the one saying hello and sometimes he wouldn&#039;t even say hello back to me. I felt really bad because my other friends always answer, but he seemed to be bothered. And also after having some small talk in messenger he would just leave without saying good-bye. But then in other occasions he would chat with me for a very long time, that was confusing to me. 
However, I never considered the idea of him being rude, but different. He has had many cultural shocks as well and I really appreciate him more for trying to adapt to the latin culture. Now I know more about his background thanks to the comments on here! 

P.S. Any advice regarding what to do and what not to do when I find him on messenger, and also about text messaging would be HIGHLY APPRECIATED! (sorry for my ok English)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi to all!<br />
As a girl from Venezuela who recently met a Swede in my home country I must say I don&#8217;t agree entirely with the negative comments about Swedes. I&#8217;ve only met two Swedes in my life, both men.</p>
<p> The first one was just touring and we volunteered to show him the surroundings. He never offered any help when it was kind of obvious that we needed it and I had always thought that he was rude until I read the comments on here, like the ones of PONTUS OLIN. </p>
<p>The second Swede I&#8217;ve met is a little more different. He opens the doors for the girls and tries to adapt to the culture down here, and he is doing an awesome job. He has moved to Caracas. Whenever I see something different in him I always try to keep in mind that he is from another culture and vice-versa, and I think it has worked&#8230;things have been going great for the past 6 months!<br />
One thing that used to upset me was the fact of never saying hello when running into messenger, it was ALWAYS me the one saying hello and sometimes he wouldn&#8217;t even say hello back to me. I felt really bad because my other friends always answer, but he seemed to be bothered. And also after having some small talk in messenger he would just leave without saying good-bye. But then in other occasions he would chat with me for a very long time, that was confusing to me.<br />
However, I never considered the idea of him being rude, but different. He has had many cultural shocks as well and I really appreciate him more for trying to adapt to the latin culture. Now I know more about his background thanks to the comments on here! </p>
<p>P.S. Any advice regarding what to do and what not to do when I find him on messenger, and also about text messaging would be HIGHLY APPRECIATED! (sorry for my ok English)</p>
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		<title>By: American</title>
		<link>http://lostinstockholm.com/2008/05/26/rude-swedes-are-not-an-oxymoron/#comment-7673</link>
		<dc:creator>American</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 20:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Swede&#039;s are definitely more introverted, than Americans, that is not really a problem for me. They are definitely more liberal in a Marxist since than Americans. Also not a problem for me as long as it does not influence the Conservatism of Americans as a whole. 

Rational  ???
Sorry that one does not add up. One them would be arresting men for Paying for sex but not arresting the prostitute. Ridiculous Gender laws created by radical feminist.

Modern ???
Also does not add up!
The US landed on the moon, invented the Internet, and fostered most of the modern technology in the modern world. 

So how does that make Swede&#039;s Modern???
 
But above Niklas, does have a point.
If you go to Sweden then you are obliged to abide by their rules while in their country. That includes Rudeness and all. Because it is after Their country and you are the guest in their house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Swede&#8217;s are definitely more introverted, than Americans, that is not really a problem for me. They are definitely more liberal in a Marxist since than Americans. Also not a problem for me as long as it does not influence the Conservatism of Americans as a whole. </p>
<p>Rational  ???<br />
Sorry that one does not add up. One them would be arresting men for Paying for sex but not arresting the prostitute. Ridiculous Gender laws created by radical feminist.</p>
<p>Modern ???<br />
Also does not add up!<br />
The US landed on the moon, invented the Internet, and fostered most of the modern technology in the modern world. </p>
<p>So how does that make Swede&#8217;s Modern???</p>
<p>But above Niklas, does have a point.<br />
If you go to Sweden then you are obliged to abide by their rules while in their country. That includes Rudeness and all. Because it is after Their country and you are the guest in their house.</p>
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		<title>By: Sapphire</title>
		<link>http://lostinstockholm.com/2008/05/26/rude-swedes-are-not-an-oxymoron/#comment-7655</link>
		<dc:creator>Sapphire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 10:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous Guy - I agree with you on all your observations (liberal vs Religious, etc). 

But, rudeness to me has less to do with being introverted, cold, whatever and more to do with human decency.  

Honestly, is it really acceptable to not hold the door for a person right behind you? 
And for cars to not yield in the pedestrian sidewalk?  (Stockholm drivers are definitely the shittest, other cities seem to be nicer)
And it&#039;s okay for your waitress to forget your order for 30min and then act you didn&#039;t pay when you inquire about the food?

That&#039;s rudeness.

Americans are crazy in their own way, hands down. At least most people have some form of human decency and there&#039;s recourse if you have problems at a restaurant or store. 

I was once screamed at by a waiter TGIFridays Kungsträgården because my group paid with credit cards.  His boss, the restaurant super, agreed with him and told us we had no right to complain. Really, what the fuck kind of service is that?

That&#039;s the crap that pisses me off about Sweden. It&#039;s not about people being introverted, &quot;cold,&quot; whatever.  Isn&#039;t socialism about caring for society?  That seems to be left by the wayside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous Guy &#8211; I agree with you on all your observations (liberal vs Religious, etc). </p>
<p>But, rudeness to me has less to do with being introverted, cold, whatever and more to do with human decency.  </p>
<p>Honestly, is it really acceptable to not hold the door for a person right behind you?<br />
And for cars to not yield in the pedestrian sidewalk?  (Stockholm drivers are definitely the shittest, other cities seem to be nicer)<br />
And it&#8217;s okay for your waitress to forget your order for 30min and then act you didn&#8217;t pay when you inquire about the food?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s rudeness.</p>
<p>Americans are crazy in their own way, hands down. At least most people have some form of human decency and there&#8217;s recourse if you have problems at a restaurant or store. </p>
<p>I was once screamed at by a waiter TGIFridays Kungsträgården because my group paid with credit cards.  His boss, the restaurant super, agreed with him and told us we had no right to complain. Really, what the fuck kind of service is that?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the crap that pisses me off about Sweden. It&#8217;s not about people being introverted, &#8220;cold,&#8221; whatever.  Isn&#8217;t socialism about caring for society?  That seems to be left by the wayside.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous guy named Gustav</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous guy named Gustav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rudeness is very relative. What might be called &quot;rude&quot; in the US might be called &quot;normal&quot; in Sweden, or even &quot;good manners&quot;, and vice versa. Cultures are very different, which I guess you, being an Indian American, know, even better than me. That&#039;s why it puzzles me to see you write this post in such a condescending manner. 

Sweden has a very different culture than the US. To simplify, Sweden is introvert and the US is extrovert, Sweden is more modern and the US is more traditional, Sweden is more liberal and the US is more conservative, Sweden is more rational and the US is more hmm... how to put this delicately..? Wait, I got it! Religious. 

OK, so let&#039;s focus on the first one. Introvert vs. extrovert. How does this translate to reality and everyday life? Well, firstly, Swedes are more reserved and shy and as a result, harder to get to know. Which, by some, (mostly people from more extrovert cultures who have little to no understanding of any other cultures) is referred to as &quot;coldness&quot;. Secondly, Swedes don&#039;t find it as necessary to utter those little words of politeness as the Americans do. This might come off as rudeness. However, it is not rude according to Swedish standards. To Swedish standards, falsely smiling, or asking &quot;How do you do?&quot; without expecting a response, in the name of politeness, is not considered polite but insincere. And thirdly, Swedes value sincerity more in their communication styles, than Americans do.

However, I do agree that Swedes in bars and night clubs can be very rude, even by Swedish standards.

But the lack of tipping has nothing to do with rudeness. Tipping is just not a part of our culture. Waiters/Waitresses are not as dependent on tips as they are in the US, because here they get better paid. And sometimes tips are included in the price.

And contrary to your findings, I find that people in cars are a lot more polite and tend to stop a lot more in Sweden than in other countries I have visited. In Ireland, for example, I was so close to being run over but I wasn&#039;t thanks to my super natural reflexes. True story! Well, almost... Maybe it&#039;s the fact that you live in Stockholm whereas I live in a small town.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rudeness is very relative. What might be called &#8220;rude&#8221; in the US might be called &#8220;normal&#8221; in Sweden, or even &#8220;good manners&#8221;, and vice versa. Cultures are very different, which I guess you, being an Indian American, know, even better than me. That&#8217;s why it puzzles me to see you write this post in such a condescending manner. </p>
<p>Sweden has a very different culture than the US. To simplify, Sweden is introvert and the US is extrovert, Sweden is more modern and the US is more traditional, Sweden is more liberal and the US is more conservative, Sweden is more rational and the US is more hmm&#8230; how to put this delicately..? Wait, I got it! Religious. </p>
<p>OK, so let&#8217;s focus on the first one. Introvert vs. extrovert. How does this translate to reality and everyday life? Well, firstly, Swedes are more reserved and shy and as a result, harder to get to know. Which, by some, (mostly people from more extrovert cultures who have little to no understanding of any other cultures) is referred to as &#8220;coldness&#8221;. Secondly, Swedes don&#8217;t find it as necessary to utter those little words of politeness as the Americans do. This might come off as rudeness. However, it is not rude according to Swedish standards. To Swedish standards, falsely smiling, or asking &#8220;How do you do?&#8221; without expecting a response, in the name of politeness, is not considered polite but insincere. And thirdly, Swedes value sincerity more in their communication styles, than Americans do.</p>
<p>However, I do agree that Swedes in bars and night clubs can be very rude, even by Swedish standards.</p>
<p>But the lack of tipping has nothing to do with rudeness. Tipping is just not a part of our culture. Waiters/Waitresses are not as dependent on tips as they are in the US, because here they get better paid. And sometimes tips are included in the price.</p>
<p>And contrary to your findings, I find that people in cars are a lot more polite and tend to stop a lot more in Sweden than in other countries I have visited. In Ireland, for example, I was so close to being run over but I wasn&#8217;t thanks to my super natural reflexes. True story! Well, almost&#8230; Maybe it&#8217;s the fact that you live in Stockholm whereas I live in a small town.</p>
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		<title>By: Niklas</title>
		<link>http://lostinstockholm.com/2008/05/26/rude-swedes-are-not-an-oxymoron/#comment-7135</link>
		<dc:creator>Niklas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well you&#039;re a person that has lived in Sweden for 4years and still you can&#039;t even speak the fucking language &quot;engelska kvinna&quot; what in God&#039;s name is that =S?

We learn your language without even visiting your countries, we study your history and cultures. But still you have the nerves to whine like spoiled children once you come here.
You aren&#039;t prepared to learn the language or adapt to Sweden&#039;s culture and society. It&#039;s a joke.

If you&#039;re prepared to learn a new language and adapt to a COMPLETELY different culture. You might find happiness here. If you aren&#039;t able to do that, just fucking leave. No one wants you here. Go back to your country and stay there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well you&#8217;re a person that has lived in Sweden for 4years and still you can&#8217;t even speak the fucking language &#8220;engelska kvinna&#8221; what in God&#8217;s name is that =S?</p>
<p>We learn your language without even visiting your countries, we study your history and cultures. But still you have the nerves to whine like spoiled children once you come here.<br />
You aren&#8217;t prepared to learn the language or adapt to Sweden&#8217;s culture and society. It&#8217;s a joke.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re prepared to learn a new language and adapt to a COMPLETELY different culture. You might find happiness here. If you aren&#8217;t able to do that, just fucking leave. No one wants you here. Go back to your country and stay there.</p>
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		<title>By: Engelska Kvinna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Engelska Kvinna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 13:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hej,

I am English. I have lived in Göteborg for 4 yrs now. I have dated several Swedish men. Most of my friends are immigrants from many different countries. I find it difficult to make friends with Swedes. I have definately stuggled at times with the lack of manners that Swedish people have. I have become kind of used to being banged into, without a glance. I am used to being told to WAIT, without please and thank you’s. I feel that the men I have dated have been much colder and more distant than the English men that I have dated. The thing that makes me really angry is the lack of customer service in shops and public buildings, such as hospitals. I just can not get used to repeatedly being ignored at reception desks whilst the staff talk to other staff members, or look at a computer. No eye contact. No, “hello, I will be with you in a moment”. Today, I again tried to talk to my current boyfriend about how much this upsets me. I asked him to help me to understand the culture, so that I could feel more comfortable with it. He obviously did not want to talk about it. Eventually, I persuaded him, but he has no answers. Neither of us understand why this happens. It is not good business sense and does not help the society in any way. Can any body explain this to us please?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hej,</p>
<p>I am English. I have lived in Göteborg for 4 yrs now. I have dated several Swedish men. Most of my friends are immigrants from many different countries. I find it difficult to make friends with Swedes. I have definately stuggled at times with the lack of manners that Swedish people have. I have become kind of used to being banged into, without a glance. I am used to being told to WAIT, without please and thank you’s. I feel that the men I have dated have been much colder and more distant than the English men that I have dated. The thing that makes me really angry is the lack of customer service in shops and public buildings, such as hospitals. I just can not get used to repeatedly being ignored at reception desks whilst the staff talk to other staff members, or look at a computer. No eye contact. No, “hello, I will be with you in a moment”. Today, I again tried to talk to my current boyfriend about how much this upsets me. I asked him to help me to understand the culture, so that I could feel more comfortable with it. He obviously did not want to talk about it. Eventually, I persuaded him, but he has no answers. Neither of us understand why this happens. It is not good business sense and does not help the society in any way. Can any body explain this to us please?</p>
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		<title>By: Anders</title>
		<link>http://lostinstockholm.com/2008/05/26/rude-swedes-are-not-an-oxymoron/#comment-4832</link>
		<dc:creator>Anders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 05:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to say that Pontus Olins comments about the subject were spot on - I&#039;ll save them for the time when/if I have to rebuke another slander of Swedes. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to say that Pontus Olins comments about the subject were spot on &#8211; I&#8217;ll save them for the time when/if I have to rebuke another slander of Swedes. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://lostinstockholm.com/2008/05/26/rude-swedes-are-not-an-oxymoron/#comment-4635</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops, silence i meant, see the effect of not communicating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops, silence i meant, see the effect of not communicating.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>at first the sielence of train and not talking and ... were realy frustrating ,and actually i wondered how these people meet and get marry !, now though the over adaptable person i am, i &#039;m so used to it that even when i see someone speaks English i couldn&#039;t find the gutt to talk to them, or maybe i just don&#039;t feel like talking which is sad, really really sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>at first the sielence of train and not talking and &#8230; were realy frustrating ,and actually i wondered how these people meet and get marry !, now though the over adaptable person i am, i &#8216;m so used to it that even when i see someone speaks English i couldn&#8217;t find the gutt to talk to them, or maybe i just don&#8217;t feel like talking which is sad, really really sad.</p>
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